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This week “Technology Evangelist” Adria Richards was fired from her job at SendGrid for the way she handled her complaint against a sexual pun at San Diego’s Python conference, PyCon, as was one of the men who made said pun. This resulted in an amazingly (though not entirely surprisingly, considering other examples) vitriolic lash-back from social media, naturally ranging from general disappointment in the way Richards handled the situation to threats of rape and other violence.
You can find a pretty succinct summary on DailyDot.com, but I’ll attempt an even briefer one here: essentially, at one of PyCon’s sessions, Richards took note of a pair of men behind her making a joking sexual comment about the phrases “big dongle” and “fork that guy’s repo”. While she was initially going to brush it off, she shortly thereafter decided to report it to the PyCon administrators, as there were young female developers present at the conference and she wanted to stand up for less of a “boy’s club” atmosphere in the fields of technology. She snapped a pic of them on her phone and posted it on Twitter, with a request that they men be talked to about their conduct.
This ended with one of the men in question being fired from his job and subsequently for Richards to be fired from her job as well. To his credit, the gentleman who got fired, while upset over losing his job, apologized and attempted to explain himself, and Richards in turn voiced sympathy for him losing his job and better clarified her thoughts too.
Hi, I’m the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I’d like to say I’m sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes were made about forking. My friends and I had decided forking someone’s repo is a new form of flattery (the highest form being implementation) and we were excited about one of the presenters projects; a friend said “I would fork that guys repo” The sexual context was applied by Adria, and not us.
Thanks for speaking up, contributing your viewpoint on HN and not attacking me.
I’m sorry to hear your employer deciding to not to work with you on this and I hope they reconsider, bring you back on and dealing with it constructively.
For context, I’m a developer evangelist.
That means I’m an advocate for developers, male and female. While I hear abou demanding bosses with impossible deadlines for product launches, I also hear about the experiences of women working at startups.
In both cases I offer suggestions, ideas and mentoring to help the developers become problems solvers. Sometimes the answer is our API or not answering email after 7pm while other times it about being assertive and shedding impostor syndrome.
The forking joke set the stage for the dongle joke.
Yes, this time I decided I didn’t want to argue my perspective. I decided instead to accept it bothered me and took action based on the PyCon Code of Conduct. It sounds like if I’d said something about the forking you would have denied it having a sexual association. Not sure if I smiled but I’m also unsure what facial expression you would have expected.
It’s too bad that the resulting discussion had to happen after the fact, though I’m glad that it happened at all. It’s also too bad so many people still disagree with Richards’ core concept, and feel the need to threaten her.
I spent 4 years in a technical college getting a degree in Computer Science and because of that spend most of my time surrounded by dudes, as well as other females in the same situation (that being, an engineer surrounded by dudes). I got used to all manners of jokes, ranging from simple-and-nerdy (“IT’S A TARP!“) to intentionally-poorly-veiled sexual innuendos (“in YOUR-endo!”). None of these ever bothered me. It wasn’t that they did bother me, but in an attempt to fit in I pretended they didn’t. It was that they never bothered me at all. Why is that, exactly? I’m not entirely sure, but a lot of it, I think, had to do with the fact that for one I got used to the dude-culture over time, since mid-way through high school, and for another, I was lucky enough not to have been a target for bullying through my teenage and young-adult years. I was gregarious enough to get along with just about anybody who sat next to me, but low-key enough not to be noticed by anyone who might have considered picking on me. Additionally, I had 2 loving parents and a brother who encouraged me to follow my dreams and, in short, not to put up with any shit.
So jokes about “big dongles” or being willing to “fork someone’s repo” actually make me genuinely giggle. They’re silly, immature, and I know are typically said without meaning to inhibit my status as a woman (another area in which I’ve been lucky – I have never had coworkers or friends put me down or make me feel inferior as a woman in technology). I also know being able to hear these and laugh gives me a bit of an edge in a male-dominated field in that it gives me the appearance of a mellow coworker who doesn’t get easily bent out of shape.
While sexual or otherwise inappropriate innuendo has rarely (if ever) appeared in my workplace, I know it’s still part of the culture. I play enough video games, read enough blogs, and have enough friends and acquaintances in the field to know that these references are common.
I say all this to explain that while I don’t find a reference to “big dongle” particularly offensive, I think Richards made the right choice in reporting these men. It’s because jokes like these are so ubiquitous and because some women aren’t like me that I feel like we should try to weed these seemingly innocuous comments out of our technological culture. The world of technology can’t become more inclusive if we insist on clinging to phrases and jokes that make the people we’re trying to include uncomfortable, even if for whatever reason we find them hilarious.
Many tweets and blog posts have been devoted to accusing Richards of not acting “like an adult” in this situation, which I find sort of hilariously ironic – what could possibly be less adult than a joke about “big dongles”? Do I think she should have tweeted a picture of the 2 gentlemen? Nah, I don’t think so. Do I think she was absolutely in the right to report them to a PyCon authority? Sure! I think in an effort to include all types of people in a traditionally one-sided community, it’s within everybody’s rights to say “Hey, this is actually a little bothersome to the people you’re attempting to include.” It’s about being able to have a real discussion.
Yeah, I agree.
Logistically, I get that Richards probably didn’t want to get up during the session and figured it’d be easier to tweet about it (plus get in a little bro-shaming, I suppose). Because the session was on-going, and because she had no idea how these 2 men would react by confronting them, she probably didn’t want to turn around and have an immediately discussion with them concerning their choice of jokes (and considering the insanely violent vitriolic lash-back on the internet, I can’t blame her). Still, I can’t help but think there could have been a happy medium here. Perhaps simply tweeting about the gentlemen to PyCon directly, and then going with them when they were escorted out to explain her thoughts would have worked out to everyone’s benefit. Perhaps waiting until the session was over and speaking to them directly may have worked some magic. I’m not advocating that she should have stayed silent, but rather should have considered a different method of addressing the situation – which is exactly what SendGrid mentioned in their reasoning for firing her.
There’s been a big push recently to get more women into technology and STEM in general, and helping them feel welcome in these fields is going to take change. That change is going to have to include altering the occasionally offensive culture. Nobody likes change in their own little cosmos and “nerds” are especially notorious for this aversion these days, but we’re going to have to work on it if we want to expand and improve our world of developers. Do I think this could have been handled better and it’s a shame 2 people had to lose their jobs over this? Yeah, I do. Do I think it’s nuts that people are becoming so violently angry over this? Absolutely.
But do I think the underlying message of eschewing out sexual comments aimed at the group we’re trying to include is appropriate? Sure. Is that so crazy?